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Old 05-08-2008   #11
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Emo is a stereotype. I know people have real problems but if they say they are 'emo' because of them, ' I am so depressed, my life is not worth living, I feel so alone' ect it pisses me of. Other people have problems and they don't turn 'emo'. And emos do tend to make a bigger deal out of things. Always saying they are depressed when they really are not. I know not all emos are like that but the majority..
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Old 05-08-2008   #12
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I think we should make the distinction between 'emo' and 'depressed'. As far as I'm aware (although I could be wrong), emo is a "look". A style of clothing and hair, etc. Unfortunately emo seems to have become a synonym for depressed. Personally I find it awful. Someone might say, "I'm emo," and they might dress like an emo too, but they mean that they are seriously depressed. And nobody realises how truly depressed this person is, because everyone assumes that they're just 'one of those emo kids'.
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Old 05-08-2008   #13
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Emo may be short for "emotional", but it isn't simply that. If you can't describe yourself as Emotional Hardcore (the literal old genre of music) - and you can't, really - then just be scene.

Emo is a subgenre is punk. If you aren't in the slightest bit punk there's noo way on earth you're anywhere near emo. You're just scene.

Distinction clear?


Depressed people are depressed (lol meme pun, and it isn't even punday yet!), most definitely emotional, but not emo.
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Old 05-09-2008   #14
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I agree 100% with the almighty Lyncheh -- DARN you woman, why do you always say exactly what I'm about to say? <333

It IS unfortunate, emo has become a synonym for "depressed". As was stated before, and it feels like I've said this about a hundred times, there's a HUGE difference.

Emo is a label. Got that? A label.
A label where you wear dark clothes, listen to certain music, and have a certain hairstyle.
Look on Google -- "how to be emo". Go ahead, type it in. It tells you that you need the haircut, the clothes...

Basically, everything material. Nothing on the inside.

Now, depression is the opposite.
These people who actually HAVE depression are sometimes severely ill, they are sad without reason and often lose interest in things they love. They do hurt themselves.

But -- now here's the huge difference -- these people rarely tell ANYONE what's going on inside of them. How do I know? I've gone through this myself. I didn't wear black clothes to show JUST how depressed I was. Clothes show nothing. You don't use clothes to show your level of sadness. That's ridiculous. And especially when these people harm themeselves, they try to hide it, and don't get help. They never tell anyone what they did, and they hide it and deny it when you confront them. Someone very, very close to me has done this. It's absolutely insulting when some childish label is counted as another word for "clinically depressed".

There's a BIG difference, kids. Emos and depressed people aren't even on the same label.
Emo =/= depressed. Okay?

I must state, once again, that I have *nothing* whatsoever against people who are depressed and actually have real problems.

The ones I DO have something against, are people who pretend to have problems just because their mommy told them they can only buy ONE eyeliner today, not two. The people that compare themselves to those that have real problems, and those that are so immature that they believe that the amount of black clothes you have is equal to how depressed you are.

And LOL @ Kirsty. LET ME JOIN YOU. I have this srsly sad mcr song n it remindz me of mah pain!1!!
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Old 05-09-2008   #15
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One more thing -- "STOP IT YOU STUPID PREPS!!"...? Honestly, everyone who disagrees with your opinion, you call them a "prep".

I'm reminded of this: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2828044/1/My_Immortal

How sad. :c
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Old 05-09-2008   #16
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Originally Posted by Eloquence
Emo is a stereotype. I know people have real problems but if they say they are 'emo' because of them, ' I am so depressed, my life is not worth living, I feel so alone' ect it pisses me of. Other people have problems and they don't turn 'emo'. And emos do tend to make a bigger deal out of things. Always saying they are depressed when they really are not. I know not all emos are like that but the majority..
yes, it annoys me too that they say they are emo because they are depressed,alone and feeling their life is not worth living,

im a little emo myself but im trying to change..... though right now im depressed (seriously) i never thought that "emos" say that they are depressed to be emo... and as far as i know emo means genre of music...

Originally Posted by Lyncheh
I think we should make the distinction between 'emo' and 'depressed'. As far as I'm aware (although I could be wrong), emo is a "look". A style of clothing and hair, etc. Unfortunately emo seems to have become a synonym for depressed. Personally I find it awful.
yes for now emo is kind of a music genre like punk, goth (punk,goth and emo are branches of rock)

and it is a style of clothing...

[quote=Lyncheh ]Someone might say,"I'm emo," and they might dress like an emo too, but they mean that they are seriously depressed. And nobody realises how truly depressed this person is, because everyone assumes that they're just 'one of those emo kids'. [quote]

and with this quote lyncheh posted this is how i feel....
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Old 05-09-2008   #17
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Oh god.

No 1. way to cause a fight:
Walk into a group of emos and say "So... guys... what IS emo anyway?"

If there's one thing that annoys me more than whiny 'merican pop-punk, it's people being subculture/genre purists. No one DECIDES what emo is, there's no authoritative source on youth subculture, there's not even an authoritative source on the English language (no, the dictionary does not count).

Anyway, now I've got that rant out of the way, I am actually pretty fond of the emo youth movement. For me, it represents two things:

- Antimasculinity: This one's pretty simple. Emo fashion for guys is based around a lot of feminine clothing and accessories. The archetypal emo boy is expressive, sensitive, pretty, has nice hair, nails, affectionate, likes sunsets... long walks on the beach... lovely eyes.... oh.. uh.. lost myself for a moment there. Anyway, the point is, for guys, emo is very antimasculine. This is GREAT because masculinity needs a good kick in the head, and has needed one for a long while now. The whole reason emos are so hated on is because masculinity hates things that it sees to threaten itself. Guys who wear fitted shirts and eyeliner, very much on the hated side. Hence, the riots in Mexico.

- It's EMOTIONAL. This is awesome because modern society hates it when people express emotion, provided they're not either on a screen or watching a particularly moving bit of screen. You're not meant to be sad or angry or anything like that. Try telling your teacher you didn't do your homework because you were upset or angry, and (provided you don't go LOL MY DAD DIED) they'll not take that as an excuse at all. By embracing emotions, particularly their downs, we can gain a lot of insight into how society treats people who aren't having a good time with their McDonalds and HighSchoolMusical Fanfiction.

Naturally, as with every youth movement, eventually it gets to a point where some people are just imitating rather than thinking about it. But, if you're open minded and give a thought to what the symbols in emo mean and what the founders were trying to communicate (as well as the effect it has now), you can gain a lot of interesting insight.

This all said, Brand New is a damn awesome band.

P.S.: And, one final thing. I've developed an objective test to see whether someone is emo or not:
Q: Is MCR emo?
If they answer no, they're emo. If they answer yes, they're not.
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Old 05-09-2008   #18
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Default Re: Leave emo's alone!

Good discussion here -- moved to "Stuff That Matters".

neoeno: who is the "founders" of emo? I thought it "just happened" ?
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Old 05-09-2008   #19
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Default Re: Leave emo's alone!

if people are trying to become 'emo',
screw them,
but if they have real problems,
help them.
If they have an 'emo' fashion sense
go shopping with them. XD
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Old 05-09-2008   #20
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... I totally agree. Im like 15 or 10 % emo and sometimes I can have emo moments! x]
But they are people... or aliens like me But who cares! there living things! >=]
sometimes it might be wierd to you but that means you dont know the meaning of wierd.
Im wierd and im not really emo. I hear people say all the time emo kids are wierd and have no life. But they do have a life! Everyone does they just all screw it up But not emos! EMOS ROCK THE WORLD! emos make the world go 'round. x] Bwahaha!
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